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		<title>By: Raging Ranter</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Raging Ranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Last year I had a man switch sides on the sidewalk with me, because men are â€œsupposedâ€ to walk on the outside. Really. That this was in inherent feature in this man was astonishing to a Trudeaupian girl like myself.&lt;/i&gt;

Hate to tell you this, but that guy had probably just read some pick up manual that told him this type of thing impresses women. With the rise of PUA (pick up artist) training seminars, books and websites following Neil Staussâ€™s 2004 book &lt;i&gt;The Game&lt;/i&gt;, guys all over the place are reading that kind of advice. Not saying itâ€™s wrong to do it, but it isnâ€™t always pure chivalry. Especially if the guy actually made a point of telling you why heâ€™s switching places, it sounds to me like heâ€™s just doing what he read heâ€™s supposed to do.

I actually agree with the first quoted paragraph entirely though. A man doesnâ€™t have to hunt (I used to, but I canâ€™t stand killing animals now) but he should know how to handle a weapon, like a basic shotgun or rifle, and be familiar with the different actions and loading mechanisms and ammunitions. (I knew all that crap when I was 10.) And he should know how to bait a hook and catch a fish. Changing a tire or jump-starting a car are no-brainers, even if the TV commercials nowadays show the guy calling his girlfriend on his cellphone to come and change his flat for him. I swear, if one of my sisters ever dates a man who canâ€™t jump-start her car or change a flat for her, I will personally see to it that the relationship does not end in marriage, even if I have to neuter him myself. (Maybe thatâ€™s another skill the modern man should have - the ability to neuter unacceptable suitors of the women-folk in his family. :) )

(I'm posting his again because the first post went medieval with the italics for some reason.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Last year I had a man switch sides on the sidewalk with me, because men are â€œsupposedâ€ to walk on the outside. Really. That this was in inherent feature in this man was astonishing to a Trudeaupian girl like myself.</i></p>
<p>Hate to tell you this, but that guy had probably just read some pick up manual that told him this type of thing impresses women. With the rise of PUA (pick up artist) training seminars, books and websites following Neil Staussâ€™s 2004 book <i>The Game</i>, guys all over the place are reading that kind of advice. Not saying itâ€™s wrong to do it, but it isnâ€™t always pure chivalry. Especially if the guy actually made a point of telling you why heâ€™s switching places, it sounds to me like heâ€™s just doing what he read heâ€™s supposed to do.</p>
<p>I actually agree with the first quoted paragraph entirely though. A man doesnâ€™t have to hunt (I used to, but I canâ€™t stand killing animals now) but he should know how to handle a weapon, like a basic shotgun or rifle, and be familiar with the different actions and loading mechanisms and ammunitions. (I knew all that crap when I was 10.) And he should know how to bait a hook and catch a fish. Changing a tire or jump-starting a car are no-brainers, even if the TV commercials nowadays show the guy calling his girlfriend on his cellphone to come and change his flat for him. I swear, if one of my sisters ever dates a man who canâ€™t jump-start her car or change a flat for her, I will personally see to it that the relationship does not end in marriage, even if I have to neuter him myself. (Maybe thatâ€™s another skill the modern man should have - the ability to neuter unacceptable suitors of the women-folk in his family. <img src='http://girlontheright.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m posting his again because the first post went medieval with the italics for some reason.)</p>
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		<title>By: Raging Ranter</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1144</link>
		<dc:creator>Raging Ranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Last year I had a man switch sides on the sidewalk with me, because men are â€œsupposedâ€ to walk on the outside. Really. That this was in inherent feature in this man was astonishing to a Trudeaupian girl like myself.&lt;/i&gt;

Hate to tell you this, but that guy had probably just read some pick up manual that told him this type of thing impresses women. With the rise of PUA (pick up artist) training seminars, books and websites following Neil Stauss's 2004 book &lt;i&gt;The Game&lt;i&gt;, guys all over the place are reading that kind of advice. Not saying it's wrong to do it, but it isn't always pure chivalry. Especially if the guy actually made a point of telling you why he's switching places, it sounds to me like he's just doing what he read he's supposed to do. 

I actually agree with the first quoted paragraph entirely though. A man doesn't have to hunt (I used to, but I can't stand killing animals now) but he should know how to handle a weapon, like a basic shotgun or rifle, and be familiar with the different actions and loading mechanisms and ammunitions. (I knew all that crap when I was 10.) And he should know how to bait a hook and catch a fish. Changing a tire or jump-starting a car are no-brainers, even if the TV commercials nowadays show the guy calling his girlfriend on his cellphone to come and change his flat for him. I swear, if one of my sisters ever dates a man who can't jump-start her car or change a flat for her, I will personally see to it that the relationship does not end in marriage, even if I have to neuter him myself. (Maybe that's another skill the modern man should have - the ability to neuter unacceptable suitors of the women-folk in his family. :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Last year I had a man switch sides on the sidewalk with me, because men are â€œsupposedâ€ to walk on the outside. Really. That this was in inherent feature in this man was astonishing to a Trudeaupian girl like myself.</i></p>
<p>Hate to tell you this, but that guy had probably just read some pick up manual that told him this type of thing impresses women. With the rise of PUA (pick up artist) training seminars, books and websites following Neil Stauss&#8217;s 2004 book <i>The Game</i><i>, guys all over the place are reading that kind of advice. Not saying it&#8217;s wrong to do it, but it isn&#8217;t always pure chivalry. Especially if the guy actually made a point of telling you why he&#8217;s switching places, it sounds to me like he&#8217;s just doing what he read he&#8217;s supposed to do. </p>
<p>I actually agree with the first quoted paragraph entirely though. A man doesn&#8217;t have to hunt (I used to, but I can&#8217;t stand killing animals now) but he should know how to handle a weapon, like a basic shotgun or rifle, and be familiar with the different actions and loading mechanisms and ammunitions. (I knew all that crap when I was 10.) And he should know how to bait a hook and catch a fish. Changing a tire or jump-starting a car are no-brainers, even if the TV commercials nowadays show the guy calling his girlfriend on his cellphone to come and change his flat for him. I swear, if one of my sisters ever dates a man who can&#8217;t jump-start her car or change a flat for her, I will personally see to it that the relationship does not end in marriage, even if I have to neuter him myself. (Maybe that&#8217;s another skill the modern man should have - the ability to neuter unacceptable suitors of the women-folk in his family. <img src='http://girlontheright.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, these "a real man should ..." speeches are invariably written by men who are in no way representative of the average man.  Do you really believe that Heinlen wrote his standard to apply to ever man, from the farmer to the statesman?  Hell no.  Throughout history, only a small percentage of men would have ever fitted such descriptions.  That's why military officers always came from the "gentry", the educated elite - because THEY were expected to be capable of such things, and as such were expected to lead the lower classes into battle.  If anything, we've got more "real men" today than we ever had in history, even if it doesn't seem that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, these &#8220;a real man should &#8230;&#8221; speeches are invariably written by men who are in no way representative of the average man.  Do you really believe that Heinlen wrote his standard to apply to ever man, from the farmer to the statesman?  Hell no.  Throughout history, only a small percentage of men would have ever fitted such descriptions.  That&#8217;s why military officers always came from the &#8220;gentry&#8221;, the educated elite - because THEY were expected to be capable of such things, and as such were expected to lead the lower classes into battle.  If anything, we&#8217;ve got more &#8220;real men&#8221; today than we ever had in history, even if it doesn&#8217;t seem that way.</p>
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		<title>By: RegularRon</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>RegularRon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, I'm sure a few of you, remember my old " blog", and I wrote pretty much the same thing. But since it's the all knowing "John Hawkins", it's a "WOW".

Good for John, nice to see another man out there who get's it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I&#8217;m sure a few of you, remember my old &#8221; blog&#8221;, and I wrote pretty much the same thing. But since it&#8217;s the all knowing &#8220;John Hawkins&#8221;, it&#8217;s a &#8220;WOW&#8221;.</p>
<p>Good for John, nice to see another man out there who get&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: obituary</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>obituary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real men may be few and far between and not all can handle that list due to a lack in their upbringing but they are known as "keepers" amongst real women. The fems simply get the leftovers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real men may be few and far between and not all can handle that list due to a lack in their upbringing but they are known as &#8220;keepers&#8221; amongst real women. The fems simply get the leftovers.</p>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, reading the comments ahead of mine, I see a lot of bitter men with a few issues dealing with strong women. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, reading the comments ahead of mine, I see a lot of bitter men with a few issues dealing with strong women. Get over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Zendo Deb</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Zendo Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe anyone should be able to do those things.  Well, tie a tie is a bit one-sided.... Does anyone tie bow ties any more?

But most of things come down to - know how to survive after a Katrina-like event hits your area.  Get food. Defend yourself. Keep your transport running. Accept responsibility.

Oh and catching a fish and hunting include dressing game and cleaning fish. Though it has been a long time for either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe anyone should be able to do those things.  Well, tie a tie is a bit one-sided&#8230;. Does anyone tie bow ties any more?</p>
<p>But most of things come down to - know how to survive after a Katrina-like event hits your area.  Get food. Defend yourself. Keep your transport running. Accept responsibility.</p>
<p>Oh and catching a fish and hunting include dressing game and cleaning fish. Though it has been a long time for either.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Patterson</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your description of the unlamented K car should have read, "...it's like a rolling corpse."  Even Iaccoca couldn't apologize for those cars as it would have finished off Chrysler, loan guarantees or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your description of the unlamented K car should have read, &#8220;&#8230;it&#8217;s like a rolling corpse.&#8221;  Even Iaccoca couldn&#8217;t apologize for those cars as it would have finished off Chrysler, loan guarantees or not.</p>
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		<title>By: WL Mackenzie Redux</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>WL Mackenzie Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny theories there.

From my observations the supply of "real men" diminished following the sharply diminished supply of "real women". ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny theories there.</p>
<p>From my observations the supply of &#8220;real men&#8221; diminished following the sharply diminished supply of &#8220;real women&#8221;. <img src='http://girlontheright.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sluggo</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>sluggo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real men don't do those things for the reward, they do it because it is right. Feminazis don't prevent you from acting like a man, holding the door open for them should put a smile on your face, just knowing how angry it makes the ungrateful snob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real men don&#8217;t do those things for the reward, they do it because it is right. Feminazis don&#8217;t prevent you from acting like a man, holding the door open for them should put a smile on your face, just knowing how angry it makes the ungrateful snob.</p>
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		<title>By: BillyHW</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>BillyHW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the real women?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the real women?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1099</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've tried to (and failed to) live up to the Heinlein standard:

"A Man should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried to (and failed to) live up to the Heinlein standard:</p>
<p>&#8220;A Man should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: INP</title>
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		<dc:creator>INP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to hold doors open for chicks, but it was only out of the hope of getting laid. These days I'm married, so the chicks I run into out there have to open their own damn doors. After all, there's nothing in it for me anymore. Besides, if they want to compete against me for a job or dress up like soldiers, cops and firemen, a door shouldn't be that big a challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to hold doors open for chicks, but it was only out of the hope of getting laid. These days I&#8217;m married, so the chicks I run into out there have to open their own damn doors. After all, there&#8217;s nothing in it for me anymore. Besides, if they want to compete against me for a job or dress up like soldiers, cops and firemen, a door shouldn&#8217;t be that big a challenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://girlontheright.com/2008/05/16/real-men-where-art-thou/comment-page-1/#comment-1097</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it count if I don't know how to do half those things, but I'm willing to give it a try anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it count if I don&#8217;t know how to do half those things, but I&#8217;m willing to give it a try anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Pissedoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pissedoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my age of 67 this used to be the norm when I was younger. You have the feminazi bra burners for the feminsation of men and the fact you get the door shut in your face. One of my sons' held a door open for a  femanist when he was in his teens only to be told to F off so never again. Now I feel the same. You want to be equal hold the door for me and give up your seat on the bus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my age of 67 this used to be the norm when I was younger. You have the feminazi bra burners for the feminsation of men and the fact you get the door shut in your face. One of my sons&#8217; held a door open for a  femanist when he was in his teens only to be told to F off so never again. Now I feel the same. You want to be equal hold the door for me and give up your seat on the bus</p>
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