Dear Catholics,
Do yourselves (ourselves) a favor and please shut up. Shut up, for the love of Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee little donkey too.
This contrived outrage over President Obama’s forthcoming commencement address at Notre Dame University is distracting and very, very embarrassing. First of all, you (we) voted overwhelmingly in favor of President Babykiller (54 to 45% Obama over McCain among Catholics), so you have no room to argue over his policies around the unborn. He never made any secret of his belief in abortion (”If Malia or Sasha were to become pregnant, I wouldn’t want them punished with a baby.”), and unless you’ve been living under a rock since the Ascension, the pro-abortion policies of the Democrats shouldn’t be news to you.
Then there’s the fact that you are screwing up a class’s commencement ceremony with your airplane banners and billboard trucks with that oh-so-tired imagery of chopped up baby bits. The President of the United States - whoever he may be - has always done at least one graduation ceremony at a prominent school since time immemorial. And the kids that graduate that day can look back for decades on the day the president spoke at their event. What will these Notre Dame kids have to look back on, other than a bunch of screeching harpies with picket signs?
You are not doing the Catholic faith or the pro-life movement any good by embarrassing Notre Dame. If any of you are alumni (that is, if any of you were educated beyond 5th grade), make your feelings known during the annual donation drive. At that point, you may get a little thrill to send back the pre-paid donation envelope with a grotesque image of an aborted fetus in lieu of a check. Your point will be well taken by the alumni association.
In the meantime, let these kids graduate in peace. You remember peace, right? Jesus taught us about it.
No body’s talking about what’s really happening at Notre Dame.
Oh, and I know a bunch of girls you need to meet.
Comment by Foxwood — May 17, 2009 @ 2:18 pm
Hear hear.
Comment by Jonny Newton — May 17, 2009 @ 2:19 pm
In Government We Trust…
Obama is to give a speech today at Notre Dame. This is but another example of indoctrination in our school system. Obama’s direct involvement in this is just his speech, but the real involvement comes from the teachers and staff.
The catholic sch…
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Comment by Two Dogs — May 17, 2009 @ 3:08 pm
When Pro-Life Becomes Hypocritical…
Girl on the Right brings the heat on hypocritical Catholics today:
Do yourselves (ourselves) a favor and please shut up. Shut up, for the love of Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee little donkey too.
This contrived outrage over President Obama’s forth…
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I don’t think you get the point. Notre Dame should not be doing this. If Obama were at a secular school, nobody would care. When Catholics advance orthodoxy, they are doing the Church a favour, and the pro-life movement a favour in the long term. It is orthodox Catholics who are leading the revitalization of the Church.
Comment by SUZANNE — May 18, 2009 @ 12:29 am
A supposed voice on the right urging people to be silent about a pro-abortion President speaking at a supposedly Catholic University. Absurd.
Comment by Frank — May 18, 2009 @ 12:45 am
I would agree with Suzanne - I am not advocating specific activities - but the outrage is over the fact that Notre Dame is a Catholic University and has a responsibility, representing itself as such, to not trivilize the Church’s Teaching on the Sanctity of Life.
Additionally, just because self-identified Catholics did not all vote against Obama, means that none of the rest of us Catholics against abortion should make a peep since the Catholic voting block was not unanimous in its rejection of Obama and his agenda? That just doens’t make logical sense. My actions are not tied to how others who are Catholic voted, my actions are tied to my conscience.
Finally, while I would not choose to do a flyovcer with images etc… and I personally would choose other means to express my disapproval of Notre Dame’s descision - the group who did the flyover images etc… I believe was Operation Rescue - which is in itself contraversial among pro-lifers and Catholics, and to my knowledge is not a specifically Catholic organization at all. I think many pro-life groups grasped this as an opprotunity to get out a message and individually each did so in the way they most likely thought best - and being pro-life is by no means held exclusivly by Catholics.
As to Jesus teaching peace - it was not an advocacy of false peace, of peace by ignoring truth and sin - so what in theory is more in alignment with Jesus’ teachings? Having a peaceful non-controntational, trivial ceremony - while ignoring an issue involving a clear genocide of a class of people (the pre-born), at an institution that by idenitifying itself as Catholic has an implied responsibility to not trivilize such killing OR would Jesus more likely advocate a display of truth as an appropriate reaction - I mean from the Catholic perspective, if one willfully has an abortion and does not ask for God’s forgiveness, that is a matter of heaven or hell. Some principles Jesus indicated are worth rocking the boat over (for example, say - sacrificing yourself on a cross for.) [and yes if college graduation is the penacle of your life, your life is likley empty, in the grand scheme, a graduation ceremony really shouldn’t be in the top significant events in your life}.
I understand your frustration, but I think some of the things I said should also be considered as an alternative perspective.
Comment by V.Long — May 18, 2009 @ 3:59 am
Another mouthy angry greedy millennial brain dead wholly amoral open immigration supporting Toronto trash faux-con feminist with a grudge against the Church. Yawn.
Get the f*ck out of my country if you can’t handle the religion of the plurality of Canadians, skank. Screeching harpies indeed.
Comment by You Suck Wendy — May 18, 2009 @ 12:03 pm
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“oh-so-tired imagery of chopped up baby bits.”
That statement is as disgusting as the concept of abortion. How did such a practice become legal in the first place?
Lets chop up some kittens and see what that moral equivlence is.
Comment by orvict — May 18, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Wendy,
While I agree with your point about “too little, too late”, the rest of your post is complete bullshit.
For one thing, you need to make the elementary distinction between practising, professing Catholics - the ones, you know, which actually follow what the Church teaches - and everyone else who merely got baptized and is indistiguishable from the rest of the population. We were soiling ourselves at the prospect of an Obama presidency then and we are soiling ourselves now. There was no “contrived outrage” then, and there is no “contrived outrage” now. The fact that you can’t make the distinction between us and them does not reflect very well on you, I’m afraid. Like, grow up and grab a clue, eh?
And as far as the poor dears who will have to remember that a few people showed up to protest the honouring of the most infamous pro-abort leader of all time, that’s too damn bad.
Maybe next time they should think about getting and receiving a degree from a secular university instead of one which at least professes to be Catholic. You gotta think, that maybe, just maybe, this is the kind of reaction is to be expected. If they want to be hypocrites, then that’s fine. They just shouldn’t be too shaken when someone point out the emperor has no clothes.
A really trashy and stupid post, Wendy. Something that a liberal would write.
Comment by John Pacheco — May 18, 2009 @ 5:41 pm
You must be liberal.
Comment by Billy — May 19, 2009 @ 1:21 am
Miss Sullivan: As you say, it’s kind of Catholic thing. I don’t know your feelings about Catholics. But think of praying for us as an exercise in self-interest. This is because whatever happens to us today, happens to the world tomorrow and the Catholic Church is fighting for its life internally today. Our survival is guaranteed, but at a cost to be determined by God alone. That’s why your prayers are important.
Apart from that, I think if women have an abortion, but they choose it because they’re terribly young or scared or confused, or pressured, that Christ understands that.
Normal women have abortions and then suffer from them for decades. Abortion is so evil, it can make us all a little crazy. But the child forgives, and anyone can be healed of anything in Christ’s mercy. It’s important to remember these things.
People who have had abortions can be healed, in Christ. It’s important to remember these things.
Pax,
Mr. John Heuertz, O.P.
Kansas City
Comment by John Heuertz — May 19, 2009 @ 11:05 am
Wendy: Some of the above comments are way over the top but I must also disagree with your post. The protests were mostly against Notre Dame (a catholic school inviting a pro-abortion prez to speak).
Had the protests become violent, I would have agree with your post but they didn’t. God bless free speech - I’m sure you’ll agree with me on that point.
Comment by Roger — May 19, 2009 @ 12:07 pm
There is another thing to remember here. As the Catholic Church goes, so goes the West, Wendy.
It doesn’t really matter if you believe that or not, although the last 40 years sure do go along way to proving it.
And understand that if Catholics do not recover, you can kiss your civil liberties away. There won’t be anymore “Brass Balls Radio” or free speech for that matter. That little guy in White in Rome and the conservatives on the Supreme Court are all Catholics.
So before you shit on us, think before you write.
Comment by John Pacheco — May 19, 2009 @ 12:09 pm
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Well well, I seem to have sparked a little dissent among the ranks. Good. I too am Catholic, and pro-life. I have practiced that by not having any abortions myself, and by being supportive and kind to others in distress. I personally have found that giving someone a shoulder is usually more effective than giving them a sermon. Then again, who am I, right? A liberal, a non-Canadian (as quoted above), a bitch (I deleted that one because it had waaay too much invective), and one who shits on Catholics. Whatever.
Now, can anyone tell me if anything was gained by Sunday’s demonstration? Were any minds changed or souls saved? You don’t have to give me numbers - just a yes or no will be fine. What if instead of picketing (and those lovely aforementioned flyovers), someone from the Archdiocese or the College of Cardinals had paid a private visit to Fr. Jenkins? Reminded him of his obligations to Christ and to the Church - in that order, thankyouvermuch?
I personally feel that the dozen families that pulled out of the commencement made a much larger statement than the “screaming harpies”, and they did it without getting arrested. They did it without the kind of imagery that Hezbollah and Hamas use on THEIR billboards and pickets against the Jews. They quietly and separately observed their faith away from Fr. Jenkins and the other so-called secularists.
Is Obama to blame for this? No. Like vampires, presidents must be invited in - they don’t just show up unannounced. So the fault lies squarely on the administration of the school. I would bet you a fetus that Tom Monahan would NOT have made the invitation to Obama on behalf of Ave Maria, or that the Mormons would NOT have invited him to Brigham Young. Just as I would not invite him into my home. Which means that Jenkins et al, and the students who accepted this, are souls that might need a little saving. Which brings me back to my earlier point above: A shoulder is worth more than a sermon.
RG
Comment by Right Girl — May 19, 2009 @ 4:22 pm
What was accomplished is that any Catholic university in the future thinking of catering to Obama or pro-abort leaders will think twice.
Notre Dame shouldn’t be the university where Catholics go to sell out their souls.
Comment by SUZANNE — May 19, 2009 @ 5:51 pm
Dear Wendy, Are you insane?
Comment by Jack Hammer — May 19, 2009 @ 7:58 pm
“Well well, I seem to have sparked a little dissent among the ranks. Good. I too am Catholic, and pro-life.”
Then why don’t you act like it? Stop undermining a peaceful protest from people who want to exercise their free speech to highlight such butchery. Or are you the only one who has the right to offend people? How exactly does that work? My goodness, Wendy, it is only mildly ironic that you would be so concerned with other people’s feelings.
“I have practiced that by not having any abortions myself, and by being supportive and kind to others in distress. I personally have found that giving someone a shoulder is usually more effective than giving them a sermon. Then again, who am I, right? A liberal, a non-Canadian (as quoted above), a bitch (I deleted that one because it had waaay too much invective), and one who shits on Catholics. Whatever.”
Spare us the BS. Pro-life activists are by and large people of great empathy towards women who have had abortions. I know because I have dealt with women who had them, and I showed them kindness, love, and understanding. But that sure as hell doesn’t mean we stop the fight against the practice, or honour a president who seeks to impose it as a right and even override the consciences of health care workers. But, ooops, sorry that would be giving a sermon and we shouldn’t be doing that. Say, Wendy, next time you’re on Michael Coren or host your show, try applying that “shoulder to cry on shtick” next time you care about a principle that is being shoved down the toilet. Let’s see how you wear that outfit.
“Now, can anyone tell me if anything was gained by Sunday’s demonstration? Were any minds changed or souls saved? You don’t have to give me numbers - just a yes or no will be fine. What if instead of picketing (and those lovely aforementioned flyovers), someone from the Archdiocese or the College of Cardinals had paid a private visit to Fr. Jenkins? Reminded him of his obligations to Christ and to the Church - in that order, thankyouvermuch?”
Wendy, over here, babe. Wake up. Over 80 bishops condemned the move both in letter and in print, and over 360,000 signatures were downloaded on Notre Dame, as well as personal conversations between at least his own Bishop and probably many others. The guy didn’t listen. He betrayed his own faith and caused a massive scandal. Read the Gospels when Jesus talked about the “rocks” crying out, and then read what He did with the money changers and tax collectors in the Temple. Did you miss Mass on those Sunday readings, Wendy?
“I personally feel that the dozen families that pulled out of the commencement made a much larger statement than the “screaming harpies”, and they did it without getting arrested.”
Give me a break. Jesus got arrested too for shaking the apple cart. And so did John the Baptist. And they both screamed a lot when it was appropriate. But then again, some of us get our hands dirty and fight for what we believe in. We’re not all cocktail conservatives on the circuit.
“They did it without the kind of imagery that Hezbollah and Hamas use on THEIR billboards and pickets against the Jews. They quietly and separately observed their faith away from Fr. Jenkins and the other so-called secularists.”
I see. So you want to compare an innocent dead unborn baby to showing a casualty of war which terrorists brought upon themselves? That’s quite a comparison, Wendy. Keep going.
“Is Obama to blame for this? No. Like vampires, presidents must be invited in - they don’t just show up unannounced. So the fault lies squarely on the administration of the school. I would bet you a fetus that Tom Monahan would NOT have made the invitation to Obama on behalf of Ave Maria, or that the Mormons would NOT have invited him to Brigham Young. Just as I would not invite him into my home. Which means that Jenkins et al, and the students who accepted this, are souls that might need a little saving. Which brings me back to my earlier point above: A shoulder is worth more than a sermon.”
Dear, get real. This is a war. These people are not Catholic. They are pseudo Catholics and imposters — that much is certain. We’ve been talking for the past 40 years and nothing has changed. In fact, it’s gotten worse. Do you expect us to believe that if we gave Obama and the Messiah’s disiples our shoulders that he would back down on his assault on the unborn child? If we gave them our shoulders, they’d merely step up on them and keep going. Don’t insult our intelligence.
Why don’t you give Nancy Pelosi or the Human Rights Commission your shoulder to cry on?
I’m very disappointed in you, Wendy. It looks like Obama has more disciples than he thinks.
Comment by John Pacheco — May 19, 2009 @ 9:45 pm
“Undermining”, John? Really? I don’t picket in lockstep, and I’m undermining?
RG
Comment by Right Girl — May 19, 2009 @ 9:52 pm
Wendy,
You don’t picket. That’s the point.
Oh…and aren’t you bit of a warhawk too? I think it’s a bit rich and comical for you to throw around this “shoulder to cry on” crap when THIS IS MUCH MORE OF A WAR then even the ones we fight against the honest-to-goodness terrorists. And we’re not even advocating violence! Double zing, Wendy.
There’s 100,000+ Canadians and over 1,000,0000 American unborn babies who are being exterminated EVERY YEAR, and you and the rest of the conservative cocktail circuit get your bras out of shape over a few thousand and want to march to war over it.
Let’s get some perspective and consistency. Or better yet, spare us that “I’m pro-life too” shit. Because you aren’t…because if you were, by your own standards of war, you would be, at the very least, supportive of civil disobedience against Notre Dame.
Comment by John Pacheco — May 19, 2009 @ 10:04 pm
So it’s up to you to tell me whether I’m Catholic or not; whether I’m pro-life or not? Would you like to also tell me whether I’m female or not, or anything else for that matter?
I TOTALLY agree with the sentiment expressed on Sunday - I simply think there was a better way of going about it.
For that, you wish to effectively excommunicate me. Well done. You have proved my point for me. My point being that you will NEVER win anyone over to your side by being a belligerent asshole. You said yourself that you’ve been fighting for 40 years and nothing’s changed; it’s only gotten worse.
Don’t give up the fight, but maybe it’s time to change the METHOD.
RG
Comment by Right Girl — May 19, 2009 @ 10:09 pm
Spare us, OK?
You singled out Catholics in your very first line and told us to shut up in the face of one of the greatest scandals in the American Church’s history. That righly pissed me off and many others. (I see that you have subsequently changed the first line. Why did you do that Wendy? To let us know you’re one of us?)
Your next line was not much better because, until you dutifully informed us that you’re “one of us”, you disrespected the Holy Family. That’s another thing that pissed me off. We’ll see if you get to do that with Muhammed when you’re under the Burka because of all of the hundreds of millions of (western) babies that have been flushed down the toilet these past 40 years. Funny how you’re all hot to go to war to push the Mullahs back, but you won’t break a nail or a sweat or hold a sign to actually join the REAL fight to save western civilization. How do you figure, Wendy? Please explain that to us. We’re dying to hear it.
Then you went on to talk about “contrived outrage”. WTF is that? “Contrived” as if to suggest we’re phony? That we’re making it up? That it’s all just part of a game? What kind of shit is that Wendy?
Then you proceeded to group the pseudo Catholics with us. That’s a real insult and shows that you don’t know WTF you are talking about.
Then you got all upset that the poor kids would have to endure real Catholic who would dare remind the students that they are honouring a man who is not only pushing the dismemberment of babies at home but abroad. And that he is going to force people to betray their consciences, like an honest-to-goodness thug. And through this, he is going to hasten the demise of the West and the free speech that you are so jealous of. I wonder, Wendy, when this whole thing shakes out and the pearls get a little tighter around all of our necks, whether you will be more subdued in your criticisms of the brave souls who would dare hold a sign and speak out. Or perhaps, we should all just be silent and polite so that the tranquility of the Great Leader and his disciples not be disturbed?
And then you said that the protesters were “embarassing Notre Dame”. Embarassing Our Lady? Is that what you are saying?
And, last but not least, you went on to compare the peace that Jesus offers to the peace at keeping silent when the “anti-Christ” speaks at His Mother’s university.
I can scarecly believe you wrote this drivel, Wendy.
You’re writing like a liberal, and with the coherency and logic of one too.
Comment by John Pacheco — May 19, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
I think it is a small minority of the 45% that you have been hearing from.
Of course if Rome ever follows through and excommunicates every American Catholic who uses birth control, believes in abortion, divorce, … it will be a very much smaller church in this country.
(What’s up with Mel Gibson getting divorced?)
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I wish someone would of raise a stink before anne frank died. I guess you didn’t realize the evil slope the nazi party took germany. Before the death camps germany had a horrible program to kill the mentally challenged. Maybe don’t even know of that program which existed years before anne frank died. If only there were raised voices and protests. If only governments were made to look at the ugly nazi culture before the ovens were built. Catholic faith requires the outrage, but i guess you don’t get it. Sorry the graduates lives were messed up,but i guess i’m more sorry that some woman will have her child cut up into tiny pieces. Don’t support this guy. Everything is a photo op. Maybe some graduates will get a backbone and not support the school ever so the future anne franks won’t be burned in a red medical waste bag. Don’t say catholics voted for him because you are automatically kicked out for supporting abortion so directly as voting for this guy. Maybe paying taxes will go to abortion, but voting for this guy is like signing the check for the abortionist directly. Pray for those EX-Catholics that voted for him.
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